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Middling Along is the podcast for ‘midults‘ who want to spend their middle years thriving, not just surviving. Voted as one of the Top 25 podcasts for midlife and menopause at https://www.lattelounge.co.uk/podcasts-about-the-menopause/ - Emma speaks to a wide range of guests who entertain, inform, and inspire in equal measure!
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Thursday Dec 28, 2023
Dr Katie Barber on the NICE draft guidelines
Thursday Dec 28, 2023
Thursday Dec 28, 2023
In this slightly shorter than usual episode we welcome back to the podcast Dr Katie Barber, GP and menopause specialist. Our topic is the draft NICE guidelines for menopause, which caused quite a lot of attention in the media when the draft was released for consultation earlier in 2023 - particularly with reference to the focus on CBT for symptom management.
The consultation process closes in early January 2024, and no doubt the final version of the guidelines will be significantly different to this draft version. That said, I’m really grateful to Katie for giving us the benefit of her measured and nuanced take on this emotive topic, including:
- What the NICE guidelines actually are, for anyone who isn’t familiar with them;
- That CBT isn’t a ‘new’ addition to the guidelines, and can be a part of a ‘toolkit’ of options, including for those who can’t take HRT;
- The need for more research in several areas, including those on gender-affirming hormone treatment and HRT, breast cancer patients, and outcomes for ethnic minority groups;
- The overarching need for informed choice - as always - with both the benefits of HRT being clearly articulated as well as the risks.
You can find Katie at https://www.oxfordmenopause.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/oxford_menopause/ and previously on the podcast at https://middlingalong.com/episodes/middling-along-dr-katie-barber-helps-us-get-to-grips-with-testosterone-dos-and-donts/ and https://middlingalong.com/episodes/middling-along-23-dr-katie-barber-on-menopause-myths-and-misconceptions/
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